Saturday, January 5, 2013

Who is the better singer: Bob Dylan or Céline Dion?

This came to mind via a comment thread on Ann Althouse where they were talking about things like lip-syncing and Les Miz. If you think about the comparison of Dylan and Dion in the right way, it can uncover some problems and principles of aesthetics. For example, if you say Céline Dion is obviously a better singer because she has better breath-control, or tuning, or timbre then I might answer, sure, but I would much rather hear Bob Dylan sing. Why? He has an interesting timbre often just right for the song and his phrasing is also captivating. Not to mention the songs are better.

So let's make a list of the things I just mentioned:

  • Tuning: a lot of pop music now uses Auto-tune, which corrects imperfections in the tuning of the voice. If a note is a bit flat, it brings it up to pitch and vice versa. Here is a famous example:

What gives this its distinctive sound is the over-use of Auto-tune. You can hear the voice jumping from pitch to pitch as if it were a synthesizer. Other places, the Auto-tune was not used because you can hear Cher sliding from one note to another. A really good singer has enough technique to not need Auto-tune, but a lot of singers in pop music do not have much technique. Try to imagine Bob Dylan using Auto-tune! He sure wouldn't sound like Dylan anymore. He has made a virtue out of the imperfections of the singing voice. For him, singing out of tune is part of the expression. As a matter of fact, it can be that for every singer, even classical ones, because one of the great virtues of the voice is that it can sing slightly sharp or slightly flat--which is expressive!
  • Breath control: a lot of singing is about breathing. How long can you hold a note? Can you hold a note without wavering or wobbling? In much pop music notes are not held for very long. Listen to Dylan singing "Like a Rolling Stone". At the beginning the only note held for any length of time is the "you" of "didn't you" and the pitch wobbles alarmingly. Compare this to Cher's singing. Dylan tends to spit out small groups of words in clumps, Cher holds every note out. 

  • Timbre is the slightly fancy musical word for tone-color. In pop music a lot of impurities are actively cultivated for their expressive qualities. Céline Dion cultivates a fairly pure voice as do most of the pop divas. Bob Dylan, in common with singers like Tom Waits and Leonard Cohen, cultivates a gravelly or reedy tone full of impurities. This supposedly adds 'authenticity'. Here is a little Tom Waits as an example. One of the oddest things I ever saw on YouTube was a German baritone, an opera singer, doing a Tom Waits song! Of course it was better than if Tom Waits tried to do an opera aria, but still... 

  • Phrasing is a huge and difficult to discuss topic, but I might be able to find some examples. I recall reading a book on phrasing once that turned out to be of little value because this is one of those times where written notation isn't much help. You really need to hear phrasing! Actually, a really good example is "Like a Rolling Stone". Listen to how the words of the verse tumble over one another, leading up to "didn't you" each time. This leading, this pointing forward, is one of the most important things in phrasing.

Let's listen to some Céline Dion. This is "I Surrender" from 2007. She is a terrific singer, without a doubt. As is sometimes said, she has a great instrument (her vocal cords, diaphragm, lungs, the whole physical aspect that produces the sound) which she has also trained to a high degree of perfection. She can do what she wants to do with it. Listen, for example to the phrase towards the beginning that ends with "find a way". On "way" she pushes the pitch up slightly and then slides down as an ornament. No Auto-tune here!

But I find the whole experience disappointing because the song is so bland. It seems full of emotion and expression, but it really isn't. It is too predictable for one thing. Not one harmony is unexpected. The melody, such as it is, is dull and lifeless. Go ahead, sing me the tune. Not easy is it? Because it is so unmemorable. There are no interesting contrasts in the song or the arrangement. It is all one big blanket of sound, pulsing predictably. The fact that Dion is such an excellent singer and the production is so elaborate makes it listenable, but not really enjoyable. That's for me, of course. For most people this would be just the thing because they don't actually want the music to be too interesting. Most people prefer the predictable and comfortable. But predictable, comfortable music has a pretty short shelf-life. In any case, this is perfect for Las Vegas, which is pretty much the most scathing criticism I can deliver!

Now let's hear some more Dylan for contrast. This is the original version of "All Along the Watchtower" that many, many others have since recorded.

Now this has pretty much everything against it: minimal production values, no video, no dancing, the same three chords over and over again--this song has no contrasting section, just the verse over and over. Some of the worst harmonica playing! Plus, Dylan's singing. Every note sounds like it is a strain. Every note he sings is at least a bit out of tune! Guitar, bass and drums, nothing else (but the guitar might be double-tracked as it sounds too full for just a single acoustic guitar). This has nothing going for it! Well, except the song with those amazing words. After all these years I still couldn't tell you what the song is about or what the words mean. But they are very evocative. This is one of those mysteries of music: this song and even this performance is a thousand times more interesting than the song by Céline Dion. It shouldn't be, but it is. A lot of it is that it has a unique sound, unlike any other song, especially when Dylan sings it. But there are a thousand songs like Dion's and they all sound much the same.


Craig said...

A very interesting post! I did not know about AutoTune, but it explains a lot. (Such as why Taylor Swift sounds sings so much worse in live performances than on record.) I wonder what I would sound like with AutoTune to help me?

I'm glad that you chose Dylan as your dark horse; I have always maintained, often in the face of genuine incredulity, that he is (or was) a very good singer, though not of course in every respect.

Do you know his early version of "Moonshiner"? It is a nice example of his ability to actually sing, breath control and all. He couldn't do this any more. (Just keep breathing, Bob!)

Your remark about Vegas is priceless.

Bryan Townsend said...

Thanks, Craig! And thanks for the Moonshiner clip. You are so right. I don't think I have ever heard Dylan do such straightforward singing.

One of the things that absolutely sets pop music off from classical music is the importance of distinctiveness in things like timbre and phrasing. Bob Dylan has always had an utterly unique sound. You hear three notes and you know it's him. Same with Leonard Cohen. Or B. B. King and Eric Clapton for that matter. Same with the Beatles or the Stones. It's the ones that don't have that distinctiveness that tend to fall by the wayside.

Classical music operates under different aesthetic rules. But still, you can tell Beethoven, Bach, Debussy or Shostakovich (and a lot of others) almost from the first measure, so maybe there is some overlap...

Anonymous said...

Vocal cords! CORDS! Not chords. Surely you know the difference!

Bryan Townsend said...

Oh yes! Thanks, corrected.

Unknown said...


Hello! It's me again!

Look, I am not familiar with nor do I really care about technical styles....but you do know that Celine Dion, for all her technical prowess and so-called "breath control", is and airy as well, right? And also, her voice, though technically good, is also kinda flawed--she, like Dylan, is also a divisive artist--her voice can be annoying to some people, and after a while, you have to admit, her voice does kinda get grating on the ears...god knows how many times one can stomach having to live with "My Heart Will Go On"--especially after the Titanic movie came out in '97.

By the way, speaking of operatically trained people doing non-classical music, check out Alfie Boe, an English Tenor. He is well known for opera and musical theater (in fact, his Jean Valjean in Les Miserables is widely regarded to be one of the best ones in the show's run)....but he also does rock and pop music pretty damn well. In fact, he sang Queen and was even in (I kid you not) a symphonic version of The Who's Quadrophenia with Billy Idol, Pete Townshend, Etc, sang with Robert me, it is not as strange as the German Baritone singing Tom Waits, I promise!

Celine Dion at times also has problems with her phrasing in English songs....but she is from Quebec, so because of the fact that she is French-Canadian, that phrasing can be a bit difficult since English was not the first language she grew up with, and it can be hard to understand what she is saying or singing at times................And her tone, despite being pure (what the hell does that mean?), can also kind of be reedy or kinda goat-sounding at times. What's wrong with being reedy or gravelly? I mean like, no one's voice is perfect............................................

Thing is, breath control, I don't really care much for that either............I listen to a lot of rock and pop music, in which notes are not held for long, but how the hell can someone control their breath? I mean like breathing is an involuntary action.......why can't the brain just automatically tell you to "breathe" while you sing? Cher is an awesome artist by the fact, the song "Believe", the one that you posted, was in fact number 1 on the charts when I was born (March 10th, 1999).

And yeah, even though I don't listen to either of those two that much, nor am I a huge fan of auto-tune, I think that a unique sound is pretty much better over something like the predictableness of comfort like Celine Dion, though I think that for soothing children to sleep, Dion and artists with control over their voice might have a better advantage over people like Dylan.....................Sorry if I was being a bit long in my comments.

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Anonymous said...

What I cannot stand about Dylan and other "singer-songwriters" with terrible voices: there are great singers out there who can sing your songs! The great composers throughout history wrote their music to have the greatest performers interpret it. The insistence of Dylan on singing his stuff himself diminished his work immeasurably. Only hardcore Dylan fans can sit through the painful sounds emanating from his throat.