tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8827040061563065922.post975877601670508004..comments2024-03-27T23:06:03.736-05:00Comments on The Music Salon: Friday MiscellaneaBryan Townsendhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09482696991279345516noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8827040061563065922.post-66362242668825219102016-04-28T08:08:55.077-05:002016-04-28T08:08:55.077-05:00Thanks for the link, Marc. I will have to investig...Thanks for the link, Marc. I will have to investigate. It almost sounds like it might deserve a post.Bryan Townsendhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09482696991279345516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8827040061563065922.post-43574985124102338252016-04-27T14:00:59.378-05:002016-04-27T14:00:59.378-05:00[ You might be interested in a 'study' (sc...[ You might be interested in a 'study' (scientific!) about reviews and reviewers that NL noticed today. http://slippedisc.com/2016/04/academic-study-classical-reviews-have-not-changed-in-90-years/ ]Marc in Eugenehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04331547981498637474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8827040061563065922.post-6933240271160089962016-04-23T22:09:41.440-05:002016-04-23T22:09:41.440-05:00Yes, it seems that few of the newer generations of...Yes, it seems that few of the newer generations of pop stars have anywhere near the originality and genius of the ones we are losing.<br /><br />You aren't actually disagreeing with me, I don't think. Apart from saying that the Led Zeppelin progression is rather different from the Spirit one, I wasn't making a judgment. In fact, I think that we are pretty much in agreement. You should have a look at some of my other posts on the subject: http://themusicsalon.blogspot.mx/2016/04/everything-is-derivative.htmlBryan Townsendhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09482696991279345516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8827040061563065922.post-79463188423242710352016-04-23T17:24:56.683-05:002016-04-23T17:24:56.683-05:00It's by comparing Prince with the current crop...It's by comparing Prince with the current crop of pop stars one realizes what we lost with his death (or Bowie's). These two guys had undeniably musical sensitivity and creativity (and chops! Prince could play many instruments very well).<br /><br />On the subject of plagiarism I beg to disagree respectfully. I don't particularly care for LZ and their pilfering of black music is just part of an old white tradition... :-) But when it comes to Stairway, I find the charge unsustainable. A chromatic descent in the bass line starting from the root in a minor key is an old cliche of classical music. If LZ plagiarized it, then so did Spirit and so did George Harrison (While my guitar gently weeps) and so did Schubert and so did Haydn and so did just about everyone!!!<br /><br />That's point 1. Point 2 is more important. It is that in music borrowing others' ideas is what it's all about. That's how Bach learned and taught music: he learned his craft by taking known compositions and rewriting them. Handel was accused of plagiarism but maybe he pushed the idea too far. But you know the saying: the mediocre artist borrows; the genius steals. I think this concept of creating new art from scratch is partly why modern art is such utter garbage. Great art takes from the old and tweaks it in a novel way. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8827040061563065922.post-91640591438039221092016-04-23T08:27:42.011-05:002016-04-23T08:27:42.011-05:00I wasn't aware that Denis Apivor was also an a...I wasn't aware that Denis Apivor was also an anaesthetist! But I certainly knew him as a composer for guitar. In fact, I think I used to have a copy of his Saeta. He was of that generation that was pretty sure the future was all serial music. But, like a number of others, by the 80s he had changed his mind. I remember listening to a panel discussion of three composers, all of whom wrote for guitar, in Toronto in the 80s sometime. The composers were Leo Brouwer, Stephen Dodgson and Gilbert Biberian and I asked them why they had all returned to writing, more or less, tonal music. The answers were kind of interesting. Brouwer attributed it to simple exhaustion with the syntax of serialism.Bryan Townsendhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09482696991279345516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8827040061563065922.post-50044174427271473272016-04-22T13:59:29.209-05:002016-04-22T13:59:29.209-05:00Relying on your judgment, I knew it had to happen ...Relying on your judgment, I knew it had to happen sooner or later: a Steve Reich piece I've actually enjoyed listening to at its first hearing. Thanks! "It decided that this was not where it wanted to be..."-- very good!-- & I did look up Chibougamau, even. But it has to be ironic in some meta- way that Denis ApIvor's 'other' life was that of an anaethetist? Will add his name to my list 'composers to attempt listening to'; in his case, Spotify won't do me any good apart from one song, 'Saeta'. Marc in Eugenehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04331547981498637474noreply@blogger.com