tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8827040061563065922.post6104513228477959404..comments2024-03-27T23:06:03.736-05:00Comments on The Music Salon: Hot New Release in ClassicalBryan Townsendhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09482696991279345516noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8827040061563065922.post-55447443099459150242019-07-15T15:13:32.254-05:002019-07-15T15:13:32.254-05:00Ah, thanks. Am I to gather that the odes by Pindar...Ah, thanks. Am I to gather that the odes by Pindar are the locus classicus of this phenomenon?<br /><br />So in music, Pierrot Lunaire is probably a good example.Bryan Townsendhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09482696991279345516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8827040061563065922.post-32081358479276494052019-07-15T11:51:39.320-05:002019-07-15T11:51:39.320-05:00The Pindar Odes phenomenon is an art work generall...The Pindar Odes phenomenon is an art work generally or universally labeled as a Masterwork which no one now cares about (other than a handful of specialists/fringe audience). <br /><br />My point being that Masterwork is a specialist term having no apparent effect on whether the "arts public" has any interest in them.Maurynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8827040061563065922.post-43495356630534303242019-07-15T07:04:42.209-05:002019-07-15T07:04:42.209-05:00What do you mean by the "Pindar Odes phenomen...What do you mean by the "Pindar Odes phenomenon"?Bryan Townsendhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09482696991279345516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8827040061563065922.post-3259696920952268542019-07-14T22:58:04.027-05:002019-07-14T22:58:04.027-05:00FWIW these were all issued on LP originally by CBS...FWIW these were all issued on LP originally by CBS or RCA. With respect to your question about Agon as a masterwork or not, I have realized unwillingly that music can be rated as masterworks without anyone caring about that. I happen to think atypically that Agon and Threni are masterworks but even if a majority did I am not sure that there would be any greater performance interest in them. It's sort of the Pindar Odes phenomenon applied at large.Maurynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8827040061563065922.post-43964256245961492412015-08-18T16:14:53.916-05:002015-08-18T16:14:53.916-05:00The weird thing about Fontana Mix is how closely i...The weird thing about Fontana Mix is how closely it resembles Revolution No. 9 from The White Album by the Beatles...Bryan Townsendhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09482696991279345516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8827040061563065922.post-25572264373620273242015-08-17T22:07:15.803-05:002015-08-17T22:07:15.803-05:00The composers you mention are from the generation ...The composers you mention are from the generation before the Second World War. The ones in this collection are from after the war. And yes, I am not of their tribe in terms of either ideology or method. But I want to have this quite interesting collection on my shelf for a number of reasons: for reference, for curiosity (as there are a number of works I am not familiar with), for completeness (as I have little from these composers at present) and because among these unpromising and uncompromising pieces there may be one of real value. Or not, but I won't know until I listen.Bryan Townsendhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09482696991279345516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8827040061563065922.post-8624415962463829262015-08-17T14:38:58.773-05:002015-08-17T14:38:58.773-05:00Also, since you've mentioned it: I approach co...Also, since you've mentioned it: I approach composers as Cage, Stockhausen, Boulez etc. more as a curiosity rather than serious listening. I think a good example of this is the video of John Cage performing Water Walk at a TV show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSulycqZH-URickardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08084578675339015204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8827040061563065922.post-357734828833983172015-08-17T14:36:05.131-05:002015-08-17T14:36:05.131-05:00Personally I wouldn't buy a CD with post WWII ...Personally I wouldn't buy a CD with post WWII modernist music since it's for the most part uninteresting aesthetically speaking. Of course the advantage in this case is that it's only 22 USD. However it's a bit misleading title. Lets for a moment assume that these actually are masterpieces of the 20th century: It is a list of masterpieces that is very skewed in favor of late modernism. There's no Debussy, Ravel, Satie, Scriabin, Prokofiev, Gershwin or even Schoenberg on that list for instance. Rickardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08084578675339015204noreply@blogger.com