tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8827040061563065922.post5013953387201026036..comments2024-03-29T07:38:17.008-05:00Comments on The Music Salon: The Spirits of the TimesBryan Townsendhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09482696991279345516noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8827040061563065922.post-46595565053920380452015-06-26T08:39:52.346-05:002015-06-26T08:39:52.346-05:00You are correct!! Actually, 1946 to 48. I should h...You are correct!! Actually, 1946 to 48. I should have chosen his Music of Changes.Bryan Townsendhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09482696991279345516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8827040061563065922.post-50222642990185041802015-06-26T07:36:02.832-05:002015-06-26T07:36:02.832-05:00The Cage Sonatas and Interludes is from the mid-19...The Cage Sonatas and Interludes is from the mid-1940s, where his aesthetic was quite different from that of the 1950s. No indeterminacy, Coomaraswamy philosophy, closer to Lou Harrison and Henry Cowell than to Stockhausen and Boulez.Ken F.https://www.blogger.com/profile/08296737421194767997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8827040061563065922.post-51843710736637922872015-06-26T06:50:42.378-05:002015-06-26T06:50:42.378-05:00Yes, we have a serious Dies Irae deficiency these ...Yes, we have a serious Dies Irae deficiency these days!Bryan Townsendhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09482696991279345516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8827040061563065922.post-87408552828806510262015-06-25T14:11:28.011-05:002015-06-25T14:11:28.011-05:00They are barbarians, these days; am quite sure you...They are barbarians, these days; am quite sure you can find examples of 'bright and cheery' <i>Dies irae</i>s written post-1970. :-) (The sad irony of course is that you have to go to celebrations of the 'old' Mass to get <i>any</i> Dies irae at all, post-1970, except as the chant melody is used in film and television scores.) Marc in Eugenehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04331547981498637474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8827040061563065922.post-3403973642269169652015-06-25T13:21:23.720-05:002015-06-25T13:21:23.720-05:00Oh, I very much see what you mean! I'm afraid ...Oh, I very much see what you mean! I'm afraid that I comment on religious things as an outsider. But I think it was the particular text that struck me as an incongruous mix. A bright and cheery Gloria, ok, but Kyrie eleison?Bryan Townsendhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09482696991279345516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8827040061563065922.post-11719301375325378182015-06-25T13:04:03.037-05:002015-06-25T13:04:03.037-05:00While I agree that 'religious music' is be...While I agree that 'religious music' is better exemplified in the Bach than in the Haydn, ha, and am more than willing to exclude every instrument but the unaccompanied voice and the organ from church, cheeriness and brightness are not, after all, inimical to religion, however challenging it may be to get one's head around the concept 'cheerful solemnity'. Believe me, <i>any</i> of Haydn's Masses would be an immeasurable improvement compared to the dross I have to avoid listening to every Sunday and feast day.Marc in Eugenehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04331547981498637474noreply@blogger.com